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To be honest I'm increasingly becoming frustrated by all the baddies.We cannot go on here though and start listing names.That would be unfair and wrong.If you want to gripe about Swap-bot and ask people to list names then you need to start a yahoo group.Those that want to know or who hostess alot can then add names and addresses.Swap-bot is not the right place to do it.

An even better way to do this would be to make rules.These are the ones I'm adding to all my swaps.

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Unfortunately do to the amount of so sends from Newbies i feel i have to add this.I cannot continue to make up swaps for those who donot send their items.It gets really expensive especially if it's a dollar amount swap.

I donot want to sound mean or harsh.Swap-bot is suppose to be a fun place to swap not get cheated.More and more are signing up getting their swaps and then deleting their profile.Worse yet some even leave a 1 when they know they received their item and then delete their profiles.

I have had this happen alot lately as swap-bot becomes more popular.No-one in the future will be allowed to sign up for my swaps if they are a Newbie unless they will be receiving at least 3 swap ratings before i assign partners.Most of my swaps are set for a month to two months ahead of time.The only exception to this will be the following.

At least 3 people you have sent your swaps to that have received their item and can vouch for you.

For those with just one 1 rating please sign up.For those with more then 1 no send you will need to contact me or i will remove you.

Sorry if this sounds mean or harsh but I'm getting increasingly frustrated with those who just don't care about or respect others.I think more hostesses will start doing this as well.

By actually making it harder to sign up and get to play it will decrease this problem.This is something that every hostess should do.If you just give names that wont do it.They can sign up again using a different name or PO box ect.So we all need to make a stand not name names which really wont get us anywhere.

On the verbal abuse.I have been called a sociopath because i asked very nicely why i received the 1 rating.She told me she forgot about my emails and just left it anyway.So of course i was upset you would be to.Sorry but that doesn't make me a sociopath.There are also good reasons why some people may have been given a 1 by mistake.Maybe they didn't receive it yet.

I mean give them time to send it to you.If you don't receive it then email them before you leave a 1 rating.It's not like the 1 rating option goes away.If you don't receive a response to your message then of course leave them a 1..Your most likely saving some one else as well of being disappointed.

One of my swappers received a 1 rating and she has proof she sent.Then the person who left deleted their profile without sending their swap.So whose the baddie here.Don't always believe what you read.So thats another thing when you send use Delivery Confirmation.If you send over seas use the large customs form.Thats your proof you sent and it will allow you to play if you receive a 1 rating that wasn't fair.

Well thats my big 2 cents worth.

Joyce

I had a problem with the first swap I'd signed up for. My partner was apparently a "professional" when it comes to stiffing folks. Since swap-bot automatically assigns us partners, I wonder if there is a way to automatically kick out those that receive more than one bad rating? (I know there are some circumstances where #1's are not deserved, so that why it should be multiple #1 ratings for a single person.)

Does anyone know if this has been addresses already? If not, I'll certainly send it along to swap-bot.

I have to agree with all those points, Joyce - I'm very new to swap-bot, and I do like it so much - so far I have not had terrible luck - - on my very first swap, the coordinator got my name and did not send anything - and she already had been given a "1" for doing that before for a swap she'd hosted! - of course, I had no way of changing who mught have gotten my name, or even knowing it was her until after the rating time-frame appeared - I guess I've just learned to never sign up for her swaps again - and that was my very first swap! ~sigh~ - I do agree tho that the coordinators should not have to "cover" the slacker's behinds - it's really too bad that some people just can be so inconsiderate and unkind. As you said, this is supposed to be FUN!

(well, that's my 2 cents worth, too, haha) MaryB

I am new and sending out my first few swaps this week, I sure hope it doesn't happen to me, but as luck has it, it probably will. Wish me luck!!!

I've seen on a couple of swaps that the coordinator asked for "angels" to send items if there was a no-send. What about setting up a forum (or yahoo group) that fills those no-sends? I would be willing to make time to send things to people who didn't get their items, all that I could (I can't quilt or sew, but I can try. I work two jobs but I still have time for swap-bot...I'm know I could find more time to help out. Maybe I'm just really sensitive right now (hormones and what-not) but it kills me to hear of people not receiving their items.

I agree with graphics_cactus! What a good idea, I would be interested in signing up with that forum. GOOD FOR YOU!

howdy! I'm pretty new to swap-bot and have had good swaps so far. So exciting! Is there a way to help out people like me who want to sign up for swaps and boost my rating? I'm getting scared that ppl are going to see my profile which, as of yet, has no rating and think that I'm dodgy. Not-a-dodgy-swapper. M.

I have no problem with sharing information on bad swappers from exchanges I have hosted....but not publicly. I will gladly email the list to swap hosts who want the information so they can ban baddies who attempt to sneak in. But I think posting people's information publicly is wrong.

Just my 2 cents worth....

I first came to swap bot in october 2006, I joined a total of 30 swaps by end of Dec and I got stiffed 10 out of those 30! tose arent good odds to lose a third of all the swaps. I have thought long and hard about these issues and have some ideas: for 1 thing we all need to be more careful to check out the profiles of those in the swap we join and now I find the host of the swaps cant be trusted either, so now I check on them too before joining. seems there are no rules to host swaps so there is no higher standard they are held to, I believe you should have to have a high rating yourself to host, that would help a lot, as long as then the hosts have more tight rules about the no senders. there are so many things that could help, but nothing will change unless we ban together as a group of tired of being stiffed!! My swaps I list are all listed with a zero tolerance for 1's, and there is only a slight bit of wiggle room just for those innocent ones. I am going to write the other blogs as well... Marlene

I am also new to swab-bot and have started to worry about not getting swaps in return. I talked my friend into swaping and she didn't get anything back! Makes me feel great, not.. I have signed up for a few more swaps, but if I don't start receiving anything, I will have to drop out. It's a shame, I'm having so much fun. Thanks to the people who did send to me. Billie Jo

I am also new and have never swapped before. I am signed up for Three swaps and I have the stuff ready to send out on Saturday. I am now worried I will not get anything in return. This is supposed to be fun and I don't want to just flush money down the toliet. Well I will give it a try and If I get stiffed I will stop swapping. It is a shame that the people that sign up for this don't do it.

PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS SWAP-BOT IS NOT WORKING RIGHT TODAY AND WILL NOT LET ME DELETE

IF YOU WANT TO START A YAHOO GROUP, THEN BY ALL MEANS GO DO IT

IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE PUBLIC LISTING OF NAMES, THEN DON'T PARTICIPATE HERE

IF YOU ARE NEW AND THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU, THEN DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT

NO ONE HERE KNOWS THE ABUSIVE EMAIL I RECEIVED TODAY WHICH CAUSED ME TO POST THIS, SO DON'T JUDGE ME.

IF YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT I HAVE POSTED HERE, THEN MOVE ON.

AND PLEASE, NO MORE COMMENTS.

AND BY THE WAY---I HAVE RULES, I CHECK PROFILES, I BAN PEOPLE FROM MY SWAPS. AND STILL, I GET FLAKERS AND NASTY NASTY EMAIL WHEN I RATE A "1"

IT'S NOT WORTH IT ANY MORE

I WAS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING PROACTIVE SO THAT I FELT SAFE TO CONTINUE SWAPPING HERE. OBVIOUSLY, FROM THESE COMMENTS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. SO I WILL SIMPLY FULFILL THE SWAPS I AM IN AND BE DONE WITH SWAP-BOT.

Hi Everyone, This is just an idea - and I don't know if it could work on Swap Bot but I belong to another group and they do "centralized swaps" on that group. Everybody mails their swap packages to the swap co-ordinator with a Self Addressed stamped envelope and she sorts the stuff and sends back to us the equivalent of what we sent in. In other words, if it were a bookmark swap where you are supposed to send in 5 bookmarks you would send your 5 bookmarks in and she would mix them all up and send 5 different bookmarks back to you. That way nobody gets stuff if they don't send stuff in. :)

As for the problem of people leaving unfair ratings . . . Maybe it would be good if swap coordinators had the capability to edit ratings at their discretion if they receive a legitimate complaint. Just a thought.

Girls, There are bad and good swapers. I think we have to understand some people live in different countries, so it takes longer to a package to be delivered, and it's not the person's fault!!! Sometimes things also get lost. It's rare, but it happens. But there are some people, like a french girl that took me in a swap, and she never sent anything to anyone. Her ratings are all one, so I think in cases like this, is the person that is a bad swaper and people should banish them from swaps. Newbies have to start somewhere. Let's give them a chance! And let's be fair in our judgements!!

I've participated in several very good swaps here. It's great fun. There have been a few flakers but some of the packages, like the one that came today, were by serious and creative swappers that really cared. Sometimes there has been a swap that sounds appealing but if I join and see that it is filled with people who have low ratings and the host does not care, I'll quickly unjoin. Maybe that is a way to keep from getting "hurt."

WHAT ABOUT NO MORE COMMENTS DO YOU FOLKS NOT UNDERSTAND???????